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November 9, 2025 at 6:52 am #1254

The Feel of the moment – Image by Elisa from Pixabay https://pixabay.com/photos/evening-atmosphere-grass-sunset-4315445/
If you’re like me, you’re never entirely sure how much your feelings and perceptions reflect the circumstances in which you find yourself, and how much of your experience is dictated by the moods and expectations you bring with you into that situation.
I’m presently reading a chapter in a book (Keys of Knowledge, by Tarthang Tulku) that is exploring such questions, but doing so in such an unfamiliar way that I was ready to go on to another chapter that wouldn’t be so challenging for my trusted ways of understanding this world and my life in it.
But the author is someone whose insights I trust more than many of my usual ways of understanding; and so, I have returned to trying to fathom what he is talking about.
I’m not going to share all the language and strange analogies he uses to explore themes that are unusual in themselves, even for the forms of Buddhism I have previously encountered. But one thing is clear: he is using Western concepts to capture the spirit of a non-western way of viewing the dynamic unfolding of our human lives.
I realize that many of the concepts on which I rely are attempts to understand a cosmos that is far richer than can be captured conceptually. Using them can feel like painting a picture of a thrilling sunset with the bristles on the edge of a push broom. Anyone who attempts to use the English language to describe understandings that have arisen in other times and other cultures would surely face that same challenge.
One of the themes in these unfathomed pages for which I can at least find analogies is how the suffix ‘ness’ alters nouns to which it is appended. I hadn’t really thought about it before, but when we add “ness” to a noun (such as ‘happy’ or ‘sad’) we turn it into “a state of mind” (such as ‘happiness” or ‘sadness’). And that changes things.
“A certain ‘ness’ seems to be the key ingredient that gives continuity to our experience in time. The sky’s color may change, but the sky reliably remains the sky: it has ‘sky-ness”.
Similarly, to be happy or sad may be a passing mood, like the scent of rain or pine needles passing through on the back of the wind, but happiness and sadness are states of mind, which we identify from our past. Watching the sun setting across an open sea, we can be sad for a moment, because we have lost someone who would have appreciated it with us if they were still here. But adding ‘ness’ to “sad” turns our experience into an object: “sadness”.
When sadness settles in, we are like a coat-rack on which a familiar jacket is draped after a trek in the woods. Those feelings stick around when we label them as the state of mind we call ‘sadness’. But if those feelings were free to be part of the community of feelings with which we return from our walk, we are more likely to remember our burst of joy when an avalanche of fresh snow fell from a pine bough warmed in the early sunlight.
When we allow ourselves to change our moods, no particular feeling sticks around beyond its time; we remain free to follow the invitations of momentary experiences that are foreclosed when we assign them to a state of mind, such as ‘sadness’.
We can have a generous or stingy impulse in the flying moment, but when “kindness” or “stinginess” becomes a personal attribute to be cultivated or avoided, a distance is inserted between direct engagement and how we view ourselves.
What are some other nouns that are altered by appending the suffix ‘ness’?
Between ‘wit’ and ‘witness” there is the usual conversion of a momentary flourishing into a condition of mind; but the word ‘witness” is also used to assign a fundamental characteristic to the self. The self is the one who witnesses and owns our experience of being in this world.
‘Wit’ provides a playful engagement with life’s circumstances–allowing even painful occurrences to be lightened within a frame that exposes the temporary nature of particular events. But a ‘witness’ is called upon to observe, interpret and testify. To be a witness is to be an observer in a world of things; a subject in a passing parade of objects.
As witnesses and bystanders, we constantly report on events that occur around us, whether or not we have really been paying attention. But when we have ‘wit’ in how we view our experience, we sidestep our usual commitment to “the way things are” (as defined by an education in which we were often passive recipients of our culture’s biases and unexamined assumptions). Instead, we can access alternatives that have not been established by our familiar states of mind.
Oscar Wilde comes to mind as a famous wit of his time. On his deathbed, turning toward the wall beside his bed, his last words were reportedly: “Either this wallpaper or I have to go.” That offensive wallpaper may still be there in some garret room, but he is not.
Wilde’s wit was more powerful than the witnesses for the prosecution, who put him in jail because they couldn’t value the creative gift of a being who lived among them.
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November 14, 2025 at 6:58 am #1255
Hayward Questions
Michael,
I struggled with your blog as I had a different take on the issues.
In the sentence “I am sad“, I thought sad was an adjective
It seems that as such “sad” can erroneously be “identity” describing how or what “I am”.
If, however, we add ness we get sadness. Ness added to any word (I thought) meant “the quality of“.So we get sadness as a quality of experience.
As a quality of experience, it is no longer a personal identity.
It is not that I am sad, but rather I experience the quality of sadness.
As such sadness is a state of mind, not an identity.
There seems to be some benefit in recognizing an experience as being state of mind specific, rather than identity.
When we become sad, (I am sad) we are trapped.
But sadness as state specific is a way of knowing, not an identity.
The identity is “knowing” and sadness is an experience or way of knowing.
From what you wrote, this is just the opposite of what Rinpoche was saying, and I am reluctant to disagree, but….This is a knotty issue and I am not certain I have explained my point clearly.
Let me know
Thanks,
HaywardMichael Scrambles
Hayward,
Thank you for engaging my recent blog post and I’m sorry that I forced you to struggle with it. My only excuse is that I don’t understand any of this material as well as I wish I did.I completely missed the fact that sad and happy are not nouns, but adjectives. It rather spoils the point I was trying to make–that adding the suffix ‘ness’ turns a momentary experience into an established emotional state that thereby has a way to stick around longer than it warrants. I agree with you that sadness and happiness are a quality of experience.
I have probably never grappled with the distinction you make between “identity” and “state of mind specific experience“. I actually used the phrase “state of mind” thinking of a video you once sent me (like everything else these days, a decade ago) in which I understood you to be pointing out how the state-specific ways we interpret experience tend to mask the openness of space and the dynamic freedom of time. Clearly, I wasn’t thinking in my piece that both “sad” and “sadness” –the one through being an identified experience, the other a state-specific quality of experience–tend to obscure the openness and freedom that TSK illuminates.I have to say that my motivation for beginning to write about what came up reading Rinpoche’s book was that I was trying to clarify something for myself. Then the piece, which I hoped could be a vehicle for understanding, became an object in itself that I polished and buffed like it was a shiny red convertible in the driveway.
Now you’re making me rethink things. If sadness is an’ identity’, which removes it from the more immediate “quality of feeling” expressed in “I am sad“, which of the two is actually closer to the heartbeat of being? I guess I think of ‘feeling” as more immediate than ‘experience‘. And that once we identify a state of mind (such as sadness) we have already taken a step away from what we were feeling. I guess I was claiming that to speak of ‘sadness‘, or even ‘experience‘, we have already taken that step away from feeling and placed it in a past that we are holding onto longer than it deserves.
As for my ability to represent “what Rinpoche was saying“, today I feel more distant from that ability. I began that blog with a sense that I was lacking that ability to understand some pages in “Keys of Knowledge” but willing to look more closely. And I didn’t even get to the parts that really befuddled me (about the “cut” of discernment being like the line between the numerator and denominator in a ratio).I’m copying David because I copied him on my original e-mail to you and because I expect he will be interested in the trenchant engagement you have made with my post.
Thanks,
MichaelHayward Punctures my Unintended Bubble
Dear Michael,
I loved the struggle with your piece.
And I so appreciate the opportunity to relate to you and David about these mattersHow about the following:
All experiences (thoughts, feelings and actions) are specific to our body mind state in operation at the moment of arising.
Every state has a self of that state.
It is not that the self has many states, but rather quite the opposite
The experience of self is just another state specific experience.To see what arises, (self, experience and situation) to be a function of “a way of knowing”, is to recognize the presence of Knowledge and the influence of time and space as to how it is known.
Well, that is all that occurs for now.
Thank you for the dialogue.
Hayward
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